why is IT such an island.
Seems like everywhere I go, people in IT act like they are on an island, they don't attend user groups, Geek/Techy relationships I have with others seem to be rare, they don't visit or much less hang out on irc (.i.e. freenode) most don't follow blogs.
I talked to a long term Sun guy and mentioned Ben Rockwood of cuddletech and they have never heard of him. Brian Cantril creator of dtrace is just some guy they have never thought they would get to talk to.
People in IT really need to break down some of these bariers we have a hard enough job as it is, why should we have to do it alone?
I talked to a long term Sun guy and mentioned Ben Rockwood of cuddletech and they have never heard of him. Brian Cantril creator of dtrace is just some guy they have never thought they would get to talk to.
People in IT really need to break down some of these bariers we have a hard enough job as it is, why should we have to do it alone?
posted by jamesd_wi at Tuesday, July 08, 2008
10 Comments:
Unfortunately for many people I have worked with, IT is nothing more than a means to a paycheck. Any interest in anything related to computers stops once quitting time rolls around. As a result, such opportunities are ignored, even when they could improve their work life.
A lot of IT types I know largely ignores the IT blogging community or knows very little about it.
I guess that this might be because big companies are hiring the knowledge with the people and not just the people with some knowledge. So why these IT gurus should share the knowledge with other on blogs ?
Of course there is also simpler explanation - IT people are so overloaded with their work that they don't have a time for nothing else then just work :)
Thanks for the mention James. :)
I agree with Jason and disagree with lordmac.... as example I'd site the membership/awareness numbers for USENIX/SAGE or LOPSA... a large number of sysadmins, even in the Silicon Valley, are unware of these groups or completely uninterested.
I've found it odd too that there are only maybe 1 or 2 SysAdmin related Podcasts around and they tend to focus on the typical Cisco/Windows environment.
I think fundamentally it comes down to whether or not someone has a "career mentality". Frankly, most SA's don't expect to do this their entire lives.
benr.
LOL...
I first ran across Ben for Veritas... :P and now his name keeps cropping up everywhere. :)
It's funny too because you can ask some of these same SAs about if they follow CERT announcements or do regular patching and they say "What's that?"
Srsly
Some people are passionate about their jobs, some people aren't.
Those of us that are seek out other geeks, attend conferences and user-groups, blog about our successes, follow the blogs of others, and work to advance our craft.
Those that aren't work for the paycheck. I'm one of the former, but I work with a heck of a lot of the latter.
I have found the same thing I have colleagues that don't read anything related to the industry. Our Cisco guy reads Men's Health and his dream job would be a physical trainer. I guess it's because its my hobby also, that's why I follow the blogs. Ben you have a great blog also. (Had to do the shout out.)
I think this is what differentiates a geek from it bods. What I mean by this is simple, I would consider my self an IT geek, I am irc, check out blogs, and have my own wiki.
I know who Ben Rockwood is (Hey BenR) and even recommended his oracle books to other sys admins I work with. The best part was when I said I speak to the author on irc (they looked at me like I was mad).
I think it does come down to passion your hunger for knowledge and learning in the *Nix world there is no such thing as a uber geek because even a noobie can show you a trick or two ☺
I think it’s a good way to judge when hiring staff their level of geekness ☺
Most people who get into the field do it because they need a job, not because they have a passion.
Those with a passion (I would consider myself one of them) have largely been tamed by IT management these days. ITIL, Sox, Java, Windows, Virtualisation, ... all have a single purpose: to kill the operating system and the admin that goes with it.
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